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Saturday, September 26, 2009

"Flag Burner" Duct Taped to Flag Pole as Punishment by VFW Commander - Video

Here is a video report about a "Flag Burner" who was duct taped to a VFW Flagpole as punishment for his having burned an American Flag that flew over the post in Valley Falls, New York.

The man had gotten angry because the bartender at the post would not serve the man because he was drunk. In anger, he went outside, took the flag down and burned it. The flag had flown over a fox hole in Iraq where several Americans died.

The post commander hunted the man down and "gave him some options." The option the man chose was to be duct taped to the pole in a chair with a sign around his neck describing his actions.

Kudos to the commander for doing something about the flag-burning.


y-intercept September 26, 2009 at 7:30 PM  

In most states these day, the flag burner would be able to sue the VFW for millions and would be given a tenured position at the local state university along with a place of honor in the "pride" parade.

Anonymous,  September 27, 2009 at 7:00 AM  

Being a Vietnam Veteran also, and a
loyal American, I am pleased with the actiontaken in this instanfe

BrianinMO September 27, 2009 at 8:44 AM  

Thank you so much for your service to America in Vietnam. We all owe you so much.

Anonymous,  September 28, 2009 at 6:47 AM  

VFW Post #1938 of Valley Falls, New York should have its VFW Charter PULLED by the National VFW Organization. Vigilantes, such as those @ Post #1938 should NEVER be glorified or honored. THIS is a Nation of LAWS, not of men. We should also question the veracity of the spurious claim of the Flag's origin.

BrianinMO September 28, 2009 at 8:59 AM  

Confronting the man about his actions does not make the commander a "vigilante." The report said the flag burner volunteered to sit in the chair after admitting he had burned the flag while drunk.

Anonymous,  September 28, 2009 at 1:57 PM  

When you read ALL (or at least MOST) of the media accounts of the incident, you'll find that it is abundantly clear the Post Commander and the members did INDEED take the law into their own hands, and did so after conspiring to do so. The National Headquarters of the VFW should revoke Post #1938's VFW Charter IMMEDIATELY and with extreme predjudice !!!

Anonymous,  September 28, 2009 at 4:08 PM  

I agree that the vfw hall ought to be permanently shut down. They are a real disgrace to veterans in general and vfw members in particular. What the hell did they think they were doing by flying an American flag that they said flew over a foxhole in Iraq where two U.S. soldiers died. That flag should have been displayed in a position of Honor & Respect INSIDE the hall. What a bunch of disrespectful loose cannons!

Anonymous,  September 28, 2009 at 5:02 PM  

i think those men know more about respect then you ever will. they have proven their loyalty to the country and what they did to the guy shows their restraint. and was totally acceptable.

Douglas September 28, 2009 at 7:50 PM  

Support our country, our craftsmen and our tradesmen. We have to start buying American goods before there are no more of them made here, even if it means paying a little more for things. As a small American manufacturer, I resolve to keep farming the machinist work my company requires only to American companies on U. S. soil.

Anonymous,  September 29, 2009 at 8:31 AM  

To the person that thinks the flag should be inside vs flying... and what right did they have.... You dont know what youre talking about!

A flag that flys in honor of someone should continue to fly in honor long after theyre gone. I see nothing wrong with what they did.

To the other person that said this nation is a nation of LAWS not men... This nation started by people taking action for their rights. You people just dont get it, you think that all these "rights" that you have were a birth right... Theyre not, they were earned from people fighting to defend the very flag this idiot burned.

Some of you just make me ill with your nonsensical BS that you spout just because someone needs a tissue.

Anonymous,  September 29, 2009 at 10:05 AM  

As a WW2 Vet. Thank you for your service. It is a great feeling to see our brothers defending our Flag and Country.

Anonymous,  September 30, 2009 at 12:34 PM  

God bless the VFW, our veterans and the decision this man made to show contrite for his actions.

Semper Fi

Frank September 30, 2009 at 4:33 PM  

Its about time someone had the guts to stand up and do something. If we all could do something as this guy maybe we could get our country back and teach these bleeding heart liberals, anti AMERICANS and politically correct wussies a lesson.

TIM IN OKLAHOMA,  September 30, 2009 at 4:45 PM  

The post commander did what he needed to do. If you cowards are afraid to defend the flag and what it stands for, then leave the country, with extreme prejudice and do not let the door hit you on the way out. I was in Berlin, when the wall came down serving under the American Flag, and would be proud to defend her to YOUR last drop lf blood!

Ron Silva, California,  October 1, 2009 at 11:10 AM  

A drunken man takes your property then burns it and according to some of you, it's ok?
I absolutely agree that it is ok for me to burn my flag in protest and it is a right some veterans died to protect for me but it's not ok for me to steal your property and burn it.
The man is lucky he didn't get shot or beaten by someone protecting their property. He's also lucky he wasn't arrested for theft, distruction of private property, arson or vandalism. Any of these crimes would have been a permananent blemish on a foolish young man's life. The veteran made a wise and just choice. There should be more Americans like him.

freeourpows,  October 13, 2009 at 11:55 AM  

The situation was handled well and the drunk learned his lesson, two lessons I hope. 1.) Never burn the American flag; 2.) Don't get drunk.

Anonymous,  October 22, 2009 at 12:47 AM  

I'd have charged the shitbird, and sought max punishment.





THIS TITLE WAS ENACTED BY ACT JUNE 25, 1948, CH. 645, SEC. 1, 62 STAT. 683

§ 700. Desecration of the flag of the United States; penalties

(a)(1) Whoever knowingly mutilates, defaces, physically defiles, burns, maintains on the floor or ground, or tramples upon any flag of the United States shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.
(2) This subsection does not prohibit any conduct consisting of the disposal of a flag when it has become worn or soiled.
(b) As used in this section, the term 'flag of the United States' means any flag of the United States, or any part thereof, made of any substance, of any size, in a form that is commonly displayed.
(c) Nothing in this section shall be construed as indicating an intent on the part of Congress to deprive any State, territory, possession, or the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico of jurisdiction over any offense over which it would have jurisdiction in the absence of this section.
(d)(1) An appeal may be taken directly to the Supreme Court of the United States from any interlocutory or final judgment, decree, or order issued by a United States district court ruling upon the constitutionality of subsection (a).
(2) The Supreme Court shall, if it has not previously ruled on the question, accept jurisdiction over the appeal and advance on the docket and expedite to the greatest extent possible.

Throw his azz in prison for a year. Unfortunately, if it were to go to the Supreme Court for appeal, the appeal will be granted, as shown in the 1989 ruling of Texas vs Johnson.

Anonymous,  October 29, 2009 at 8:10 AM  

Perhaps hunting the dirty SOB down and taping him to the flag pole was not doing things right but it certainly was doing the right thing. There is a difference you know? In my 35 years in the Corps I always tried to do the right thing even if it was at time not doing things right.

Anonymous,  October 30, 2009 at 2:23 PM  

This is such a nonstory it is laughable.

Anonymous,  October 30, 2009 at 4:42 PM  

Gotta love Duct tape it has a million uses. Make that a million and one.

Anonymous,  October 30, 2009 at 5:37 PM  


BORESNAKE,  October 31, 2009 at 4:40 PM  


Anonymous,  November 3, 2009 at 2:58 PM  

Outstanding Post Commander. I support your actions. You are a Patriot!

Semper Fi

Anonymous,  December 14, 2009 at 10:35 AM  

I KNOW that kid. Ha

Anonymous,  February 15, 2010 at 4:23 AM  

I think we are missing the point, this guy burned the flag as a symbol, but the right question was never asked.
Did he burn the flag in disrespect of the War Vets that suffered heroically to protect their country, or did he burn it in protest of a system that doesn't allow self-criticism?
I personally have enormous respect for War Vets, even if I believe they are all compelled to do the wrong thing for(what they believe are) the right reasons.
Instead, they are tricked and brainwashed as young kids to believe they do it for their country where in fact it's for the enrichment of a small part of the richest population (bankers, weapon merchants, corporate elite etc...) at the expenses of their life and soul. And most of them realize that after they served.
I understand their grief and their action to punish somebody scorning their heroic actions, but if they really want to do something for the nation, the best thing is to march to White House, and get the nation, the media and the values of this once wonderful nation back where they belong: to the PEOPLE.
I don't see any other group with more (inside) knowledge than the vets to free the land of the free from the grip of the oligarchy.
WAR VETS this time we really NEED YOU before it's really too late!

With Respect, faithfully yours.

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